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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2010.05.01 21:31:00 -
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The reason Eve is very successful is that it simply doesn't have any real competition. The people who play Eve don't play much else for very long.
The day that a game shows up with a solid amount of gameplay and the same open sandbox design and a high level of loss for making mistakes I think we'll see CCP's performance falter a bit. On of these days someone will make an "Eve killer". I'm looking forward to it. It will be a fun game. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2010.05.01 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Bellum Eternus The reason Eve is very successful is that it simply doesn't have any real competition. The people who play Eve don't play much else for very long.
The day that a game shows up with a solid amount of gameplay and the same open sandbox design and a high level of loss for making mistakes I think we'll see CCP's performance falter a bit. On of these days someone will make an "Eve killer". I'm looking forward to it. It will be a fun game.
There are a number of reasons why this is unlikely to happen. The simplest is that going up against a well established MMO in its own niche is really hard, because the incumbent has all the advantages. And if you're going to make all that effort, why go after a game with ~350k subs when you can go up against a game with millions of subs?
You're thinking too small. Just because Eve holds the attention of ~350k subs doesn't mean that's all there is for that niche, or that's all there is for that market.
If one were to pick a more popular genre than 'internet spaceships' and would construct a game that draws on all of the experience and mistakes CCP has made with respect to game design etc. then I would think that we'd be looking at something with a pretty high degree of polish.
The key factor that *EVERY* other MMO out there is missing is what makes Eve so good: that PVP core with a hard connection between in-game results and time. TIME is the key here. It's what makes virtual items just as valuable as real items. Attach a time cost to something, virtual or not, and now it has worth, and that worth is fairly constant.
Once someone else figures this out and continues with that philosophy then I think we'll see quite a bit of cross pollination between the new game and Eve with respect to customer base.
I have the time and energy to play one MMO. I play Eve because everything else is total crap by comparison. Once another MMO comes along that is Eve's equal or even a little bit better who's genre suits me, I'll probably switch. Until then, I'll be playing Eve. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
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Bellum Eternus
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Posted - 2010.05.01 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: MaxxOmega Edited by: MaxxOmega on 01/05/2010 21:56:48
Originally by: Datdaar Vanmestvaalt In the original I played the original D&D for more than 15 years with the same group of old friends I now play EvE with. Guess why.....
Because you are all in the same penitentary together?
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Once another MMO comes along that is Eve's equal or even a little bit better who's genre suits me, I'll probably switch. Until then, I'll be playing Eve.
It would have to be ALOT better I have so much time invested I'll never get back...
That's Eve's main hook: sense of loss. It's a great psychological motivator. If you want to get your money and time invested back, just sell your character once you decide to quit for good. Problem solved. -
Originally by: Bellum Eternus That is the beauty of Eve, it's a crucible in which great minds are formed and the rest are ground to dust.
Bellum Eternus Inveniam viam aut faciam. |
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